Posts Tagged ‘gun laws’

This is an interesting move, if this goes well it could make a very interesting statement. If it goes bad it could make all legal gun owners look bad, b/c of a select few. Let’s be smart about this guys & girls, be safe.

See what you think, what is your opinion on this?

Here is what the Facebook Fan Page Says

  • Washington, District of Columbia
  • On the morning of July 4, 2013, Independence Day, we will muster at the National Cemetery & at noon we will step off to march across the Memorial Bridge, down Independence Avenue, around the Capitol, the Supreme Court, & the White House, then peacefully return to Virginia across the Memorial Bridge. This is an act of civil disobedience, not a permitted event. We will march with rifles loaded & slung across our backs to put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny. We are marching to mark the high water mark of government & to turn the tide. This will be a non-violent event, unless the government chooses to make it violent. Should we meet physical resistance, we will peacefully turn back, having shown that free people are not welcome in Washington, & returning with the resolve that the politicians, bureaucrats, & enforcers of the federal government will not be welcome in the land of the free.There’s a remote chance that there will be violence as there has been from government before, and I think it should be clear that if anyone involved in this event is approached respectfully by agents of the state, they will submit to arrest without resisting. We are truly saying in the SUBTLEST way possible that we would rather die on our feet than live on our knees.You are welcome to attend unarmed as a supporter, or armed with a recording device.We especially invite law enforcement officers to stand with us armed however they feel is appropriate.

    If this page gets to 10,000 attendees by June 1st, & we have the critical mass necessary to pull this off, (1,000 actual attendees) we will march. Please spread the word, share this event, & invite all your friends.


46,455 Background Checks For Gun Purchases Each Day Under Obama- Wow, how you like that for a Poll. No funny worded questions to a few hundred people.  I bet the Gun Grabbers have a hard time skewing these numbers. Guess when you look at the hard facts from the FBI background checks, it sure doesn’t look like 90% of americans are in favor of  more gun control, unless you use the liberal math. Check out the article below to see what I’m talking about.

WAIT – Now that I think about it the number could be so high bc all the women took Joe Biden’s advice and bought double barrel shotguns for home protection.

Utah-CFPYesterday on 3/30/2013 I attend a class to obtain a Non-Resident Concealed Firearm Permit for Utah. The class was put on at a local gunshop called Buckshot Sporting Goods. The class was taught by Paul Slavin of You can also find them on facebook at I cannot say enough about this group of people who put this on. Paul Slavin is a very skilled and knowledgeable instructor. I will explain to you alittle about this class and the content.

The class was setup in a small conf room at a local motel. There were scheduled to be 17 people to attend the class. When you arrived the rep from Buckshot checked you in and collected the balance owed for the class. Then you were asked to step over to a area to get your picture taken. After that you were seated and everyone had a manila envelope for each person at your table. Then contained all the paperwork needed for the class including a quiz, Utah Applications, and a finger print form. There was also an outline of the class so you could take notes and some gun diagrams for the class to be used as reference material.

When Paul started the class he explained about all the paperwork you had received in your packet and what material you were responsable for filling out. There are things you could do (like not using black ink) that could get the applications delayed or not processed at all. Then he talked about what Blue Guns were and how he would be using them in training. If you want to see a what a blue gun is go here – I never realized that the training guns were so exact to almost every model of gun. Weird thing is for some reason my Taurus PT 709 is one I cannot find that bluegun makes at this time. The blue guns make it possible to train with maxim safety in the class or at home. As Paul pointed out drawing your weapon from your holstered position is one of the most dangerous things you can do during personal training. Having a good safe way to practice is the best way to go , so no one gets hurt, not a bad idea if you got your own bluegun or other training gun.

When the content/curriculum was delivered to the class it was following the Utah Mandatory Minimum Training Curriculum that can be found on the public safety Website.


HANDGUN PARTS AND OPERATION (Revolver and Semi-automatic)





Again for a complete list of all the content goto Mandatory Minimum Training link.

The class lasted about 4 1/2 hours with time for breaks. When you leave the class all you had to do it make a copy of your Indiana Gun Permit and your Drivers License. Then you get a certified check for $51 and mail it the address already on the Manila envelope. Pretty simple. I forgot to mention the cost for the class per person was $80 plus the $51 application and processing fee. Paul said Utah has had a turn around of about 2 months.

Again this was a great experience, and I am glad my wife and I did this. Makes me want to see about taking more of Pauls Training.


See what states honor the Utah Permit. – pretty impressive.

2013 United States Traveler’s Guide to the Firearm Laws of the 50 States (Gun Laws for all Fifty States, 17th Edition) [Paperback] You can find this on Follow this link

Travelers who carry firearms on a regular basis know full well the variant nature of this situation. A routine traffic stop for a speeding violation could turn into a nightmare journey through the criminal justice system if the traveler isn’t aware of the proper way to carry or transport his firearms in a vehicle. Attorney J. Scott Kappas uses case law and statutory authority to render plain English advice as to how a traveler should carry firearms while visiting the many states of our great nation. Kappas’ book is not simply a restatement of the statutes. It is an easily readable narrative designed to unlock the complexities of state firearm laws. Five hundred Fifty thousand readers agree, the Traveler’s Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States is indispensable for staying on the road and out of jail!

If you have any questions I will try to answer then the best I can.

Indiana Permit SampleAs current Indiana Residents my wife and I have applied for our Indiana Handgun License. Those of you that are interested I thought I would take you through our process. It was pretty simple but it will be awhile before for all the paper work is processed .

First Think ahead of what option you will choose

4 Yr Hunt/Target $5 State Fee/$10 Local Agency Fee

4 Yr Pers Protect $30 State Fee/$10 Local Agency Fee

Dealer’s Personal Protection Permit – Fee Exempt

Life Hunt/Target no Current Lic $25 State/$50 Local Fee

Life Hunt/Target w/ Current Lic $20 State/$40 Local Fee

Life Pers Protect no Current License $75 State/$50 Local

Life Pers Protect w/ Current License $60 State/$40 Local

Retired Corrections Officer – Fee Exempt

Retired Police Officer – Fee Exempt

We choose the option in bold


The second step is to go online to this website –

Follow the instructions on the form

1. All questions must be answered.
3. The applicant must visit his/her local law enforcement agency with payment to complete.

You will be asked to pick the county you live in. This will help the system send the completed form the the correct local law enforcement agency or make it accessable to them.

Once the form is completed you are taken to a confirmation page with a number for your application. Save it or print it you will need this later.

You will also see this

You are required to complete one of the two options below:

Option 1

Expedited Application Process with L­1 Identity Solutions

You may choose to expedite the process of your application by scheduling an appointment with L­1 Identity Solutions. L­1 will submit your fingerprints electronically to the Indiana State Police and they will collect your state application fee. This method requires an additional $9.95.

You will need to provide your application number shown above when you arrive at your scheduled appointments.

A. Follow the link on the page to the L­1 scheduling. Click Here
B. Register, make payments electronically, and get fingerprinted before going to your local law enforcement agency.
C. Go to your local law enforcement agency.

Option 2

Visit your local law enforcement agency within the next 30 days. You will need to provide your application number shown above when you arrive. You will be fingerprinted, asked to provide necessary signatures and your payments will be collected by your local law enforcement agency.

In addition to your application number, you will need to provide the following:

1. A picture ID / Drivers License
2. A money order for state fees and local fees: Life Pers Protect no Current License $75 State/$50 Local

We decided to do option 2 , b/c the even though it takes longer we have to drive out of town and make an appointment to get this done electronically. The Sheriffs office told us it would cut the time from 16 weeks for processing to about 8 weeks. That was ok for us so we just did old school ink fingerprints.

So we made our way to our local Sheriffs Department to process our online application exactly 1 week later. I think you can only wait up to 30 days. When we arrived we had to show our photo ID and we told them we had filled the paperwork out online. They looked our forms up and checked , and printed them, then they had us fill out fingerprinting forms. We paid them $50 per person for the processing. They took us to the back to be fingerprinted on the forms we had filled out. Once that was completed they gave us our envelopes with all of our paperwork and the fingerprint forms and that was it for our Local Law Enforcement’s part. They told us to put a mail order check for $75 made out to the state of Indiana in each envelope, then mail it. Addresses were already on the envelopes. So we went to the post office and they helped us take car of that. FYI, they can take a debit card but not a credit card for some reason.  I think it has something to do with an amount being charged for the transaction.

Now we wait 16 weeks. I think in the meantime we will practice safe shooting and handling habits and get some training on how to safely and properly carry a handgun.

All this information posted and accurate on 1/17/2013

Some processing procedures could be different depending on your local law enforcement agency. Our experience was a very smooth and this made it a very easy process.

After this we need to get a UTAH permit so we can legally carry in OHIO. Crazy how that works. I hope to share that in the future.

For more information on Permits by state goto

The sample permit was from the website.